Ed Byrne: There's something satisfying about your audience growing old with you

Being a dad, being middle aged and not being overly political are among Dublin comedian Ed Byrne's preoccupations at the moment. He talks about his Belfast-bound show If I'm Honest and how, on reflection, he'd go easier on Alanis Morissette now

Comedian Ed Byrne will be at the Waterfront Hall in Belfast in March. Picture by Idil Sukan
Comedian Ed Byrne will be at the Waterfront Hall in Belfast in March. Picture by Idil Sukan

WITH 25 years comedy experience now under his belt, Ed Byrne has parlayed on-stage success into a variety of notable television appearances on the likes of Mock The Week, BBC2's recent hit The Pilgrimage and his popular travel specials with fellow Irish comic Dara O Briain, Dara & Byrne's Big Adventure and Dara and Byrne's Road To Mandalay.

However, having recently embarked on another huge live tour, the Swords-born funnyman is still very much a working stand-up: his most recent live shows Spoiler Alert and Outside Looking In explored the minefields of modern parenting and generational entitlement, while his new set If I'm Honest finds Byrne (47) digging ever deeper into a father's sense of responsibility, what it means to be a man in 2020, and whether he possesses any qualities whatsoever worth passing on to his two sons.

If I'm Honest is a show with a seriously steely core. Gender politics, for example, is something Byrne readily engages with – deploying his customary comedic zeal.

"I'll admit that there are things where men get a raw deal," he says. "We have higher suicide rates, and we tend not to do well in divorces, but representation in action movies is not something we have an issue with. It was Mad Max: Fury Road that kicked it all off, even though nobody complained about Ripley in Alien or Sarah Connor in Terminator 2. Of course, social media means this stuff gets broadcast far and wide in an instant, which emboldens people.

"The problem with men's rights activists is that it's not about speaking up for men's rights, it's about hating women. If you're a men's rights activist, you're not going to care about the fact that there's an all-female Ghostbusters remake. That's nothing to do with men's rights or female entitlement. That's everything to do with being, well, a whiny baby."

Byrne manages to provoke without being overly polemical, a balancing act that only someone of his experience can really pull off.

"I did stuff about Trump and the Pizzagate right-wing conspiracy," he says, "and a couple of the reviewers said, 'Oh, I would have liked to have watched a whole show of this'. And I think, 'well you might have, but the average person who comes to see me would not like to see that'.

"I like to make a point or get something off my chest, or perhaps I'm talking about something that's been on my mind, but the majority of stuff is just to get laughs. People who come to see me are not political activists necessarily, they're regular folk. If you can make a point to them, in between talking about your struggles with ageing, or discussing your hernia operation or whatever it is, you can toss in something that does give people pause as regards to how men should share the household chores."

He continues: "It's not that I feel a responsibility, I think it just feels more satisfying when you're doing it, and it feels more satisfying when people hear it. When a joke makes a good point, I think people enjoy it. It's the difference between having a steak and eating a chocolate bar."

Byrne, who broke through in the mid-1990s when the rise of the 'New Lad' was a genuine cultural phenomenon, doesn't want to submit to any unnecessary revisionism, but admits that if the times have changed, he has changed with them. He reflects a little ruefully on one of his most famous jokes.

"There's an attitude towards Alanis Morrisette in the opening of that routine that I'm no longer comfortable with, where I call her a moaning cow and a whiny bint… slagging off the lyrics of the song is fine, but there's a tone in the preamble that I wouldn't write today."

The new show also takes his natural tendency towards self-deprecation to unexpected extremes.

"I do genuinely annoy myself," Byrne concedes. "But the thing of your children being a reflection of you gives you an opportunity to build something out of the best of yourself only for you to then see flashes of the worst of yourself in them. It's a wake-up call about your own behaviour."

When I challenge him over the degree of self-loathing he displays, he disagrees.

"Self-aggrandising humour is a lot harder to pull off than self-deprecating humour," he insists. "A lot of people get really annoyed when Ricky Gervais is self-congratulatory. I always find it very funny when he accepts awards and does so in the most big-headed way possible. I think it's a trickier type of humour to pull off, talking yourself up in that way.

"So no, I don't think I'm being massively hard on myself. The fact is when you're the bloke who is standing on the stage with the microphone, commanding an audience's attention, you're in a very elevated position anyway."

In If I'm Honest, Byrne attempts to elucidate the frustration that arrives in middle age – and the show lives up to its title as a result.

"I'm bored looking for things, I'm bored of trying to find stuff, because I can never find it, and it is entirely my fault,' Byrne says.

"Nobody's hiding my stuff from me. Although my wife did actually move my passport on one occasion."

He insists that, while the show might have mordant and occasionally morbid aspects, it's also not without its quietly triumphant moments.

"I thought I was being quite upbeat talking about the small victories," he says. "You know, finding positivity in being able to spot when a cramp was about to happen in your leg and dealing with it before it does. I was very happy with myself about that."

Age, it seems, has not withered him. Especially now that he's figured out how to head off ailments before they become a problem.

"You see comics who are my age and older but are still retaining a level of 'cool' and drawing a young crowd. I can't deny that I'm quite envious of that. But there's also something very satisfying about your audience growing old with you."

:: Ed Byrne, Thursday March 5, Waterfront Hall, Belfast. Tickets and full tour information via Byrnebyrne.com